essential post-fed slam win federer vs sampras poll

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essential post-fed slam win federer vs sampras poll
federer	7 (58.3%)
sampras (lol)	5 (41.7%)
Total Votes: 12

essential post-fed slam win federer vs sampras poll
Topic Started: Jun 7 2009, 04:19 PM (378 Views)
tim	Jun 7 2009, 04:19 PM Post #1
BART GET OUT IM PISS Posts: 48,386 Group: Full Member Member #312 Joined: 27 June 2006	gotta say, gonna be hard to take whoever votes for sampras' opinion seriously ever again. :correct:



Mao	Jun 7 2009, 04:20 PM Post #2
Hyper Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rage, Ice Beam Posts: 52,675 Group: Full Member Member #306 Joined: 27 June 2006	i hope fed loses wimbledon and us open (highly unlikely.......... :( ) take the record in aus when rod laver prevents trophy! Edited by Mao, Jun 7 2009, 04:21 PM.



tim	Jun 7 2009, 04:23 PM Post #3
BART GET OUT IM PISS Posts: 48,386 Group: Full Member Member #312 Joined: 27 June 2006	Laurzz Jun 7 2009, 04:20 PM i hope fed loses wimbledon and us open (highly unlikely.......... :( ) take the record in aus when rod laver prevents trophy! f u. pull out of wimbeldon with swine flu, nadal gets bailed out in first round against tomic, tomic wins wimbledon. then fed wins in us open and get sampras to give him the trophy. rub it in his hairy face.



Mao	Jun 7 2009, 04:28 PM Post #4
Hyper Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rage, Ice Beam Posts: 52,675 Group: Full Member Member #306 Joined: 27 June 2006	LOL i can totes see Fed say something dodge when talking about sampras coz he always says things ... that are like..... not arrogant, but kinda too truthful if u know what i mean... its funny though coz its him so its alright like 'i am so glad to have taken this record from you.. you are a great player but sorry i am a bit better' or something lolz idk



tim	Jun 7 2009, 04:31 PM Post #5
BART GET OUT IM PISS Posts: 48,386 Group: Full Member Member #312 Joined: 27 June 2006	fed could say anything and get away with it tbh. it just comes across as cute and quirky. now that i have beaten hairy wog sampras' record and taken it from his hairy monkey paws, i demand you bring me all your pre-pubescent virgin boys and girls to work for me as sex slaves and in my underground diamond mines crowd and jim courier laugh Edited by tim, Jun 7 2009, 04:32 PM.



Mao	Jun 7 2009, 04:40 PM Post #6
Hyper Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rage, Ice Beam Posts: 52,675 Group: Full Member Member #306 Joined: 27 June 2006	:rofl: :rofl: I raelly wanna watch a compilation of fed quotes I've loled hard at so many...



leaguegod	Jun 7 2009, 11:27 PM Post #7
Back2Back Posts: 39,461 Group: Global Moderator Member #235 Joined: 16 May 2006	Laurzz Jun 7 2009, 04:20 PM i hope fed loses wimbledon and us open (highly unlikely.......... :( ) take the record in aus when rod laver prevents trophy! i think its better he takes the record at wimbleton tbh nadal is in doubt for wimbleton aswell



Mao	Jun 8 2009, 01:49 AM Post #8
Hyper Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rage, Ice Beam Posts: 52,675 Group: Full Member Member #306 Joined: 27 June 2006	leaguegod Jun 7 2009, 11:27 PM Laurzz Jun 7 2009, 04:20 PM i hope fed loses wimbledon and us open (highly unlikely.......... :( ) take the record in aus when rod laver prevents trophy! i think its better he takes the record at wimbleton tbh nadal is in doubt for wimbleton aswell I think its better too but im selfish..it would be better for us if he did it in our soil :P so unlikely though, coz if he loses wimbledon and us open (his favorite slams) that means sumsing wong wit him and chances of winning aus open are slim Edited by Mao, Jun 8 2009, 01:50 AM.



Mao	Jun 8 2009, 02:08 AM Post #9
Hyper Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rage, Ice Beam Posts: 52,675 Group: Full Member Member #306 Joined: 27 June 2006	Ahh, wonder if Raffa can complete the same feat US Open for him is like RG for Fed.... except he has a really bad record at US Open (loses to a lot of ppl, not just Fed) unlike Fed in RG who was always close



Phat	Jun 8 2009, 01:19 PM Post #10
Reporters I like: Joel Duffman, the Newsly Times Posts: 23,147 Group: Full Member Member #1,039 Joined: 5 June 2007	How can you LOL at someone voting for Sampras? Gee sorry, he only won his grand slams through an era where: Becker, Edberg, Agassi, Chang, Lendl, Stich, Krajicek, Kefelnikov, Courier, Ivanisevic, Rafter, Safin, Hewitt, Kuerten and Moya were all active. What a shitty achievement. Compare that to: Hewitt, Safin, Nadal, Djokovic, Agassi, Roddick and ???? that Federer has had to overcome on a regular basis and Sampras >>>>>>>>>> Federer. As an all-round player, Federer probably has him - he has won in Paris obviously which Sampras never did, but so did Agassi and I don't think anyone rates him over Sampras. If they played on grass or hardcourt at their best/prime, Sampras would win more often than not IMO.



Mao	Jun 9 2009, 01:21 AM Post #11
Hyper Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rage, Ice Beam Posts: 52,675 Group: Full Member Member #306 Joined: 27 June 2006	Phat Jun 8 2009, 01:19 PM How can you LOL at someone voting for Sampras? Gee sorry, he only won his grand slams through an era where: Becker, Edberg, Agassi, Chang, Lendl, Stich, Krajicek, Kefelnikov, Courier, Ivanisevic, Rafter, Safin, Hewitt, Kuerten and Moya were all active. What a shitty achievement. Compare that to: Hewitt, Safin, Nadal, Djokovic, Agassi, Roddick and ???? that Federer has had to overcome on a regular basis and Sampras >>>>>>>>>> Federer. As an all-round player, Federer probably has him - he has won in Paris obviously which Sampras never did, but so did Agassi and I don't think anyone rates him over Sampras. If they played on grass or hardcourt at their best/prime, Sampras would win more often than not IMO. How can you say the quality of players Sampras' played against is higher than that of Federer's era? Becker, Edberg, Lendl..big names - but weren't they not at their peak when Sampras dominated? (like Fed played against Sampras a few times when Sampras was about to retire) [but Chang ftw] Add Nalbandian, Murray, Davydenko too btw Edited by Mao, Jun 9 2009, 01:29 AM.



alien	Jun 9 2009, 01:36 AM Post #12
ftw Posts: 16,445 Group: Full Member Member #740 Joined: 14 October 2006	Laurzz Jun 9 2009, 01:21 AM Phat Jun 8 2009, 01:19 PM How can you LOL at someone voting for Sampras? Gee sorry, he only won his grand slams through an era where: Becker, Edberg, Agassi, Chang, Lendl, Stich, Krajicek, Kefelnikov, Courier, Ivanisevic, Rafter, Safin, Hewitt, Kuerten and Moya were all active. What a shitty achievement. Compare that to: Hewitt, Safin, Nadal, Djokovic, Agassi, Roddick and ???? that Federer has had to overcome on a regular basis and Sampras >>>>>>>>>> Federer. As an all-round player, Federer probably has him - he has won in Paris obviously which Sampras never did, but so did Agassi and I don't think anyone rates him over Sampras. If they played on grass or hardcourt at their best/prime, Sampras would win more often than not IMO. How can you say the quality of players Sampras' played against is higher than that of Federer's era? Becker, Edberg, Lendl..big names - but weren't they not at their peak when Sampras dominated? (like Fed played against Sampras a few times when Sampras was about to retire) [but Chang ftw] Add Nalbandian, Murray, Davydenko too btw and Moya, Haas, Sampras to Fed's list too



Phat	Jun 9 2009, 03:38 AM Post #13
Reporters I like: Joel Duffman, the Newsly Times Posts: 23,147 Group: Full Member Member #1,039 Joined: 5 June 2007	I referred to players who won slams in their own ere. Ie. Everyone I mentioned won a grand slam during Sampras' run of 14 bar Chang, who won the 89 French. Samras' first came in 1990 at the US. LMFAO at Davydenko - I don't think beating a player who deliberately loses matches adds much to Federer's credibility. Also LMFAO at Haas. All the guys I mentioned won Slams. Haas and Davy are a million to one to do that. Nalbandian has some credibility having made a Wimbledon final and done well at every slam. Moya's one slam didn't overlap with any of Federer's. It came six years before his first. Even Sampras' grand slam wins didn't overlap with any of Federer's. Lendle was past his prime but Becker and Edberg both had stints at number 1 after Sampras won the 1990 US. Becker won the Aus Open in 1996 ffs. I think Federer has every right to be compared with Sampras, no doubt about it - but to dismiss Sampras almost as though the notion of him being Federer's equal is a joke, is pretty stupid IMO.



Mao	Jun 9 2009, 05:37 AM Post #14
Hyper Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rage, Ice Beam Posts: 52,675 Group: Full Member Member #306 Joined: 27 June 2006	Perhaps the reason why those other blokes that are in 'feds era' didn't win slams coz fed raffa are just that good? :unsure: i think both of em have won all the slams in recent years (except 1..djokovic..and if we go back more..safin) on hard/grass IMO i wouldnt say sampras would win more times.. Fed is very good on quicker surfaces as well! and about the agassi also winning in 4 slams, well he didn't win 14 grand slams overall. so thats prolly why ppl dont say hes better When two guys have won the same amount of slams (fed and sampras) you then look at where they have won and Fed being in 3 finals and winning once at the French and Sampras best being only semi [somewhat useless on clay] has to be quite significant i wouldve thunk. Edited by Mao, Jun 9 2009, 05:37 AM.



Phat	Jun 9 2009, 06:07 AM Post #15
Reporters I like: Joel Duffman, the Newsly Times Posts: 23,147 Group: Full Member Member #1,039 Joined: 5 June 2007	It is - as I said Laurry, I'm not dismissing the possibility that Federer is better, he probably is, and his all-round superiority supports that. But on the quick surfaces, where admittedly Federer is pretty good himself, Sampras' serve would be a weapon that Federer has very rarely had to deal with. Sampras' serve was not the biggest in the 90s, but it was by an absolute mile, the best, and most consistent. I have never seen anyone serve so well when it matters. Federer doesn't necessarily have trouble with the big servers most of the time, but when they land a lot of first serves, and consistently find the lines, like most people he does have some trouble. Sampras did that on a match-ly basis. Sampras' net-play also means that Federer would not be near as effective at passing from the back of the court as well. To summarise the two, I don't think I have seen a player who's skill has been so evenly spread over all the facets of the game as Roger. He can serve, return, volley, backhand, forehand, play from deep or play in front of the baseline. Sampras' return wasn't great, his backhand was adequate but not brilliant, and his forehand could be inconsistent - though on the run it was second to none. But his serve was the best in the world, as was his volleying. I don't think you could say that any part of Federer's game is the best in the world, but all-round he is more solid.



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